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This is the most difficult issue to argue of all the documents that I have produced. If you have read some of the others, you have already read my argument about this issue. This is an attempt to explain, the truth, in detail, as clearly and simple as possible. This is the most critical piece in the metaphorical puzzle. Unless you know who the Son is, you do not have a chance of solving the rest of the puzzle. If you find yourself in total disagreement with this concept, you might as well not go any further. To do so, is merely a waste of your time. If you are among the many who have existed in a state of confusion concerning this doctrine, along with other scriptural doctrines, please read the following. It is my hope that to some readers this writing will make the muddy waters become clear.

FIRST:

Before I begin, let me state that in truth God’s only begotten Son preexisted all things created. His time is from before the foundations of the earth. When the Father did his creative work, his Son came along side, and everything that was brought into existence was accomplished through him. Everything that exists was made by him, through him, and for him. At that time, he existed in the same form as the Father. That form or substance was spirit. At the appointed time, he was sent below to the earth, took on the substance of human flesh, by being born of a woman, by a miraculous conception, and in all ways became a man. He has never been transformed back to the original kind of spirit substance. He exists today in his resurrected human body as the risen Christ. His resurrected human body is proof of God’s resurrecting power, and the hope of the Church. That body has the form of human substance along with unique spiritual qualities. At the time of the final resurrection of the Church, all believers will possess this same kind of eternal body. My human understanding cannot encompass the full extent of the above truths. Therefore, I hold fast to the same doctrines that were taught by the Apostles, through faith, and incorporate no other understanding apart from their teachings.

This paragraph that you just read counters at least two misconceptions: 1) There is a teaching that God created Adam perfect. Adam chose rebelion and that initiated the need for a plan of redemption. Furthermore, God had to send the redeemer to save mankind from his sins.

That doctrine is ignorantly based on a very limited view of God's plan. Jesus is the “lamb slain before the foundations of the world” and he is the only perfect man. Jesus is the definition of perfection. The Father's plan to sum up all things in Christ has more importance than just man's redemption from sin. Obviously, God always incorporated the sin issue into his plan, because his plan already formulated a solution before the man sinned. If we cannot accept this, it would imply that Adam's stunt caught God off guard, and he had to call a time-out, go back into the huddle and formulate a new plan. This certainly does not sound like a deity who has “all knowing” abilities.

2) The predestined works of God's Christ does away with any doctrine that teaches that believing in God is sufficient to receive eternal life. The Father has always chosen to sum up all his salvation purposes in his promised son. The misconceptions of both 1 and 2 above are corrected in this simple story of Abraham. Abraham received the promise of an heir that was not fulfilled until he was 75 years old. His wife, Sarah, was well beyond child bearing age, but miraculously conceived and bore a son, Isaac. This is the same image as God, Mary, and baby Jesus, and Christ's miraculous birth at the appointed time. This turned out great for Abraham, but it is not the complete story, because, actually, he had two sons. Abraham had a son prior to Isaac. Abraham and Sarah concocted a plan to give Abraham an heir even after God had promised them an heir. Perhaps they got tired of waiting. Abraham had relations with Sarah's servant, Hagar, and she conceived and bore a son, Ishmael. By the time Ishmael is a teenager Isaac was born, and Ishmael liked to tease his little half brother. Sarah finally has all she can take of this sibling rivalry, and orders Abraham to send Ishmael away. Ambition for her son's inheritance is at stake. Abraham is distressed because he loved Ishmael, and seeks God for advice. God tells him to send the boy away with his mother because the “son of the bond woman has no place in the camp with the son of the promise”. To appease Abraham's distress, God made Abraham a promise. That promise was to care for the boy, Ishmael, and raise him up to be the father of a great tribe. Ishmael had 12 sons and prospered.

Now that is a long story to make this point. “You must be born again to enter into the kingdom of God”. Being born of the seed of Adam and knowing God as the creator father is not going to get you a ticket into the camp with God's people. You may do well and prosper, but being born of mother earth, represented by Hagar, means you belong to the earth. Eternal life comes from being born of the seed of the son of the promise, or by the miraculous intervention of God. That plan for the promised son was before Adam. Abraham had two sons. God had two sons. Your first birth is of the seed of first son and the substance of this earth, therefore, you belong to this earth and will return to this earth. When you are born again of the seed of the second son and of the promise, that means you belong to God and have inheritance as a child of God. Nicodemus, in John, chapter 3, should have understood this important teaching. Before I leave this discussion, it is important to emphasize how the Father reveals his plan in simple terms that do not need experts to teach us. Or take us by the hand for a long walk through sessions of original Greek and Hebrew text lectures. Some of those teachers have an appointed job to do, and it is important in its own place for the Church, but it is not for everyone, and it certainly is not necessary to have a knowledgeable relationship with the Father and his Son.

In Genesis God revealed himself to Moses, on the mountain, in a unique way. Moses was not sure who was speaking to him. He asks the question, “who should I say that you are”? Look at the reply. Exd 3:15 “God also said to Moses, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations”. I am not any kind of knowledgeable person in the ancient languages of Greek or Hebrew, but allow me paraphrase the above scripture. God says, “always remember that I am the God who dealt with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. By those men you will know me”.

If you want to know God's plan of how he deals with his people look at how he worked in the lives of these three men, and never forget it. Jesus said, “he would be rejected, killed, and be raised on the third day just as it is written in the book of the prophets”. No prophet ever says that same phrase, but, Moses wrote the first five books of the bible, and the stories are images of what Jesus was talking about. A little application of wisdom to those books will show you the Father's plan. It does not require digging up the original Greek and Hebrew languages.

SECOND:

Jesus is not any part of a trinity doctrine. That doctrine is a deceiving doctrine. If you endorse it, it will produce a foggy, muddy, view of the scriptures, and a failure to fully know whom the Son or the Father are. If you believe it, you have been deceived. I am not saying that this is necessarily a deception that leads to condemnation, but, in the least, you have believed a myth. In either case, drop it, and begin to subscribe to the truth. Your belief in this God of three doctrine does not make it a truth. You could believe that the moon was made of Swiss cheese, and it would still remain rock. Spiritual truths are not based on long standing myths. The apostles talked about “putting away vain imaginations”. In another place he said, “When I was a child I spoke as a child”. Placing your belief and faith in the truth will produce a mature relationship with the Father and Son. Put away childish myths. People with mature relationships with the

Father will provide the leadership necessary to take the Church through the next few years and up to the coming of the new age. Jesus said, Luke 10:22 “all things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.” If you feel you may have been confused about the relationships between the Father and his Son, put away this myth, and seek the Lord in truth with a sincere change of heart. He will reveal the Father to you. Thousands of learned people once believed that the world was flat. They ignored any evidence that was to the contrary. There is overwhelming evidence that this doctrine is false, and very little vague evidence that supports it. The apostles did not teach it, so where did it come from?

THIRD:

I will attempt to keep this as short as possible. The only way I can be of help is by producing the scriptures that state and restate what is said above. If you make a cursory examination of the scriptures you can produce a mixture of doctrinal positions regarding this issue. In one scriptural statement it can be concluded that Jesus is the Son of God, indicating two persons, the Father and his Son. In another scripture, it can be concluded that Jesus is God, indicating only one person. These next points may help clarify this issue.

Point 1.

The foundation of this point is the following premise: “Jesus is the truth, he spoke the truth, and in him there is no lie, or contradiction. The written gospels are a reliable witness of the things Jesus said”. The record indicates that when he was on trial for his life, he was asked a specific question. His judges who were the religious leaders, knew of his ability to speak about spiritual matters in parables. They also knew he was able to outwit their attempts to verbally trap him. So, at his trial, they made their questions as blunt as possible. Jesus knew that to answer their questions, truthfully, would lead to a charge of blasphemy. That charge carried a sentence of death. He was faithful to give his reply, truthfully, without regards to his life. His answer earned his Father's approval, and their verdict that did included his death. Here is the extract from the gospel: Mark 14:61 “But he remained silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?” 62 And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”” This is the implication of Jesus’ answer; if the Christ is God, why at this most important time did he not say it? Why did he refer to himself as the “Son of Man”, instead of just saying he is God? He clearly admits that he is the Son of the Blessed, a saying that is the same as “Son of God”, and that he was going to sit at God’s right hand. This draws out the conclusion that there are two persons, one who sits on the Throne of Power, and one who is a man who sits at his right hand. There is one called the “Blessed one” and one who is a man called Christ the Son of the Blessed. Jesus’ statement is a partial quote from Psalms that states “The LORD says to my Lord, come and sit at my right hand until I place your enemies under your feet.” The religious leaders in Jerusalem knew this reference pertains to Messiah. In it the Psalmist clearly shows that there are two persons, with two different titles; The first title LORD, usually translated from Hebrew words that mean something like the Eternal God (some may argue this is God’s ancient name or YHJH, sometimes written as Jehovah), The second title, Lord (Adoni), usually translated from words that mean the Ruler or Master. In each case, there are two persons, and if it were not so, why didn’t Jesus say so. He already knew they were seeking to kill him. Except that he was truthful, it did not matter how he answered. They intended to find him guilty anyway. It would have been just as easy for him to say, “I am the blessed, and you will be seeing me sit on my throne”. If it was the truth, he would have said it, therefore, it is not the truth, and no manipulating of scriptures can make it so.

One trinity teacher indicates that if Jesus had declared that he was God, they would have immediately killed him for blaspheming, so he kept it secret. 1) From day one, in Nazareth, they tried to kill him, anyway. 2) Jesus knew that his destiny included death, because he said several times that it was “not yet my hour”, and “it is for this reason I came into the world”. 3) He was committed to speak only the truth. A half truth, or dodging the truth is not the same as speaking the truth. It is imperative to believe that he did speak the truth, and he never said he was God. He freely admitted to being the “Son of David”, “Son of Man”, and “Son of God”, all of which are terms belonging to Messiah, and all of which, also, got him tried for being an imposter as well as a blasphemer. He also was tried for insurrection because he spoke against the temple when he said “he would tear it down in three days”. He was tried for sacrilege because he healed on the Sabbath. The leaders in Jerusalem intended to kill him for any reason they could find, and he knew it. They trumped up false charges against him in a kangaroo court, held during the night, out of the public eye, which was a process strictly against the law of Moses. They used the law of Moses against him while breaking that same law. If you do not understand this, you have not fully grasped the fact that what happened to him was not a mistake or just a miscarriage of justice. He was predestined to be the suffering and dying Messiah. He knew that fact well, and interestingly, he was the one who was in control of the process the whole time. His father gave him authority over his own destiny, and he fulfilled the Father's wishes which included having himself killed by the leaders in Jerusalem, at the hands of the gentiles. He intentionally inflamed their anger against him because he was spoiling for a fight. He purposely healed on the Sabbath. He allowed himself to become carried away with anger at the temple merchants. He intentionally accused the religious leaders, to their faces, of being hypocrites, liars, adulterers, whitewashed sepulchers, sons of the devil, and snakes and vipers. He picked the fight, and he won it, when he arose from the dead, and sat down in the highest position available to any man, at the right hand of his father. He was not swept away by the circumstances of the time like a cowardly victim. It is important to see that he had the same spirit and bravery as King David, who faced Goliath when he was just a boy. He said he could call 10,000 angels to come to his aid if he chose. Because he was faithful to complete all that the Father had asked of him, he deserved the highest admonishment the Father could give him. No other man has ever done that. He truly is the one and only Messiah, and his Father is very proud of him.

Point 2:

Jesus makes a clear statement that he and the Father are one. The leaders at Jerusalem accuse him of blaspheming. They concluded that this statement by Jesus “makes himself out to be God”. Read the excerpt: John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37 If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; 38 but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

Here, Jesus has every opportunity to state that in fact he is God, and he does not. Jesus also explains that the Father is in him, and he in the Father. Once again, indicating two persons that work in unison, and denying any claim to be God. But, in some spiritual sense, being in the Father and the Father being in him makes them one in purpose, but surely not one person in the singular sense.

Point 3.

If Jesus meant that He and the Father were one in the singular sense, then what are we to do with this scripture? Mat 19:4 “He (Jesus) answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together let not man separate.””

If he meant something in the physical and literal that two people, a man and a woman, become one flesh, why do they remain physically two people? The same Jesus that said, “I and the Father are one” has also said, “that a man and a woman become one flesh”. He cannot contradict himself, so there must be another meaning. That other meaning is obviously something other than literal. Once again, I state that it must mean they become one in purpose, goals and mind. The singular, although used, does not imply that they are one person, literally. See what Philip says: John 14:8 “Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not Believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 11 believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.”” Here again, Jesus explains that having the Father’s authority to do his works and speak his words is not the same as being the Father. Having the Father in him does not mean that he is the Father. However, the state of abiding in each other produces a single mindedness in purpose. And so also it is between a man and a woman. In marriage, they have made a covenant vow to become single minded in purpose, to “have and to hold” common goals. If we are to follow the logic that having the Father in him is the same as being the Father, then what do we conclude from this statement written by the Apostles, “Christ in you is the hope of Glory” If trinity logic prevails, believers could conclude that Christ is in them, therefore, they could say, “I am Jesus Christ”. It is not hard to imagine what would happen if someone stood up in your congregation and said that. Jesus prayed for his disciples, Joh 17:11 ----- Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one”. The Messenger bible says it this way, Joh 17:11 -------“Holy Father, guard them as they pursue this life That you conferred as a gift through me, So they can be one heart and mind”. Trinity logic would explain that the Apostles, with Jesus included, are a dozen in one, or the “dozinity”. The Messenger translation seems to agree that there must be another explanation other than an all in one approach like the trinity doctrine. Point 4:

Apostle Paul was an incredibly intelligent and learned scholar. He did not walk with Jesus before and up to the resurrection, but had an encounter with the risen Christ several years later. The eleven who had walked with Jesus passed the baton to Paul. They relayed all that Jesus had spoken to them, to Paul. Paul, being full of power, and wisdom, granted by the Holy Spirit, eventually comes to a full understanding of who the Son is, and who the Father is. With his accomplished education in the scriptures, Paul is able to apply that understanding to the writings of the Old Testament. He then explains it this way: Eph 1:20 “that he (God) worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.” Also, Phi 2:5 “have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

Paul clearly sees two persons in the heavenly throne room, the Father, and Christ who sits at his right hand. Paul's statement uses some of the same words found in this scripture, Gen 41:43 “And he made him ride in his second chariot. And they called out before him, "Bow the knee!" Thus he set him over all the land of Egypt”. Paul also defines that being in the “form” of God does not mean one singular person, but is saying that Christ preexisted all creation in the substance of God, which is spirit, but never thought he was equal to God, but later became the substance of a man. The Father did not become the substance of a man, his son did. John said, “Who is it that is a liar, except the one who denies that

Jesus came in the flesh?” The trinity theory implies that God came in the flesh, and so I have heard many Christian ministers and others declare these very words, making themselves out to be deceived liars.

Point Five:

Since we are on the topic of substances, here is another. Apostle John said, 1Jo 1:5 “This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all”. Light is not the same substance as human flesh. Jesus was resurrected with a human body, although, with some very special qualities. Read what he said, Luk 24:39 “See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." These two scriptures definitely prove there are two substances, therefore, two persons. This argument makes some teachers say that it is a mystery, but, God can exist in two substances at the same time. Well great. But, if you are going to make such an important doctrine out of this that you are willing to argue your life on it, produce the scriptures from the apostle's writings that clearly states the facts. Because without that clear scriptural evidence, I choose to discriminate, and so should you. Another argument is that Jesus was changing back to the Father's substance and the followers did not recognize him after resurrection. The scriptures are to clear to accept that his substance had changed. Luke 24:39 indicates he had not changed after resurrection and at the ascension, an angel said, Act 1:11 "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven”. This indicates that Jesus' substance did not and will not change.

The reason they did not recognize him is because he had been granted all power and authority and that somehow produced a change in his appearance. If you cannot accept this, read this simple story that portrays this same truth, Gen 42: 5 Thus the sons of Israel came to buy among the others who came, for the famine was in the land of Canaan.6 Now Joseph was governor over the land. He was the one who sold to all the people of the land. And Joseph's brothers came and bowed themselves before him with their faces to the ground.7 Joseph saw his brothers and recognized them, but he treated them like strangers and spoke roughly to them. "Where do you come from?" he said. They said, "From the land of Canaan, to buy food." 8 And Joseph recognized his brothers, but they did not recognize him”. These old testament stories were not intended for our reading enjoyment, only. They are intended to portray concepts in terms simple enough for children to grasp.

Point Six:

In the above quote, Paul indicates the exalting of the Christ is a conveyance of authority, which is higher than any other in the heavens or in the earth. A conveyance requires two persons, the grantor and the grantee. Paul incorporates this next story: Gen 41:39 “Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, “Since God has shown you all this, there is none so discerning and wise as you are. 40 You shall be over my house, and all my people shall order themselves as you command. Only as regards the throne will I be greater than you.” 41 And Pharaoh said to Joseph, “See, I have set you over all the land of Egypt.” 42 Then Pharaoh took his signet ring from his hand and put it on Joseph’s hand, and clothed him in garments of fine linen and put a gold chain about his neck”. This story mirrors the same truth as the exalting of the Christ. When Paul says the Christ is exalted above all things, he of course makes exception to the fact that the one who sits on the throne and does the exalting is the greater. Read Paul’s statement: 1Co 15:27 “”God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.” Again, Paul is saying the same thing in his Paulese complex way. This may simplify it: Pharaoh says to Joseph, “you are the highest in all the land except in the throne I am greater.” Now, if you choose, search the scriptures, and see how many times the Apostles make a similar statement to this. Thomas surely saw this principal when he said this: John 20:27 “then he (Jesus) said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” At this point in time it was becoming apparent to him that the Father had raised and exalted Jesus to the position of Lord over all, and as God to Israel. This was foretold by the prophet

Zechariah: Zec 12:8 “On that day the LORD (the Almighty) will protect the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them on that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the angel of the LORD, going before them.” Being like God is not the same as being the Father.

Final Point:

Here is one more small point. The Father did not pass all authority to the Christ “as concerns to the throne”. Read this: Mat 24:36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.” And this: Act 1:7 “He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.”” And this: Mat 20:20 “then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him with her sons, and kneeling before him she asked him for something. 21 and he said to her, “What do you want?” She said to him, “Say that these two sons of mine are to sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.” 22 Jesus answered, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am to drink?” They said to him, “We are able.” 23 He said to them, “You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”” At this point, the scriptures are ringing as clear as a bell. The Christ is exalted to the highest position, except as to the throne of The Father himself. Jesus clearly acknowledges this point when he says that his Father has retained some portions of authority to himself alone.

Don’t be confused. All these examples show there are two persons in the throne room in heaven. One person exists as a Spirit, or true light, and one who exists in a resurrected human body. Clearly two different substances and two different persons.

It is time to do away with this false doctrine of a three in one God. John clearly warned us that this doctrine is spawned from hell. A three in one God implies that if you believe in God it is the same as believing in the Son. Since they are the same person what is the difference? This is a unique way to usher in a deception. There is a difference, and it is not the same. Salvation is found in the faith fact that Jesus of Nazareth is the one and only begotten Son of God, and he holds all the keys that give passage into the kingdom of God and access to his Father.

The trinity doctrine has been a cloud of confusion to many who would have liked to come to the knowledge of the truth, and a deception to those who do not love the truth. This false doctrine produces the confusion heard during prayers, wherein, the supplicant cannot decide if he should pray to God, Father, Father God, LORD, Lord, LORD GOD, or Jesus. It also leads to the Jesus only belief, which implies that since Jesus is the Father, go straight to Jesus. Read the following: Joh 16:23 “In that day you will ask nothing of me. Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you.” How can this possibly be confusing? Any child should be able to figure this out. If Jesus gave us a check book with an undisclosed large amount of money in the account, and said “go ahead and sign the checks in my name, and they will be honored”, why would we avoid using his signature? Yet, this is exactly what is happening throughout the Church today. I have heard thousands of prayers that end with the phrase “in your name”, but they never say the name. Other phrases include “in the name of God”, “in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost”, in the name of the “Holy Trinity”, or “Triune God”, etc, etc,. There is a good reason why the great enemy of the Church would not want us to have signature authority. Why don't those ministers understand John 16:23? Because they don't know the person they are praying to. They honor God with their lips, but in their hearts they are confused. I am emphatically stating that this doctrine will create confusion everywhere it goes. A Spiritual fog awaits those who try to grasp it. And to those who believe it in their hearts, deception.

Unless this piece of the proverbial puzzle, we know of as God’s Son, is placed in its correct position it is impossible to move any further beyond that point in solving the mysteries of God. Jesus is the principle piece in the knowledge puzzle. If you do not know him, you will never know the Father beyond any point of childish immaturity.

This is the time for the Church to grow up, be restored, and come into maturity. As I already stated, this is not an easy argument to make. Some will say that my arguments are not conclusive. The scriptures are not clear. Therefore, they will reason that nothing has been proven, and the trinity doctrine still stands. This false doctrine has existed for over 1000 years. It teaches that God came in the flesh, and it is a mystery.

God can exist as three persons and still be one. Before you accept this conclusion, ask yourself, and those who teach this doctrine to prove by the scriptures that the apostles ever taught this doctrine, or even used the words “trinity” or “triune god”, or the phrase that says, “God is three”. I have used as many as four English translations and have not found them. A long historic and customary existence does not make it a truth. It began to be taught prior to the death of the last Apostle. He proclaimed it false, and so should we. This doctrine has seeped into the the Church to the point that it is hardly questioned anymore. Those who do question it are almost always accused of blaspheming. That should be a clue to you. The solution is to return to the fathers. We must return to the words of the apostles.

There is a sad part that follows the writing of this document. While I know that many will privately acknowledge that I have conveyed some element of truth to the Church, they will will not change. To do so would involve rejection by their piers who stubbornly hold to the trinity doctrine. Or they may loose their jobs as ministers to congregations that are stuck in man made doctrines. I hope they might find courage to change before it is to late. Faith based on the truth is necessary to be counted among those found worthy to enter into the big banquet hall at the advent of Christ's second coming. Finding the courage to change might even draw others to follow them. Do the right thing.

I know that I am going to be ripped to shreds, on this issue, by trinity people who consider themselves to be bible translation experts. They will take you through a number of lengthy translation processes to show what Paul and John were really saying in the Greek or Hebrew. In order to agree with them, you must first decide if they are really experts in the ancient languages, and worthy of your trust in their expertise. But, before you discount the simpler way I have approached this issue for their more difficult and complex way, consider these questions:

If you are a spirit filled believer, what does your heart say concerning this? When in your private moments, do you make your requests of the Father in the name of his Son, Jesus, or are you confused about who is listening? Does the Father expect you to be an expert in Greek and Hebrew to figure this out? Does He expect you to be joined at the ears with your local Greek and Hebrew guru in order to have a knowledgeable relationship with him? Do the stories in the Old Testament that mirror this issue produced a complex solution or a simple solution? Is the comforter going to lead us into the truth, or do we need to go to seminary college and get a doctorate degree before we can be sure we have it right?

If you are having doubts about this doctrine, at least do this simple thing; put this trinity doctrine on the shelf for a while, look at the scriptures from a neutral position and make a determination based on a new, fresh look. Trust the comforter to lead you into all the truth? As I said earlier, you will know when the truth is beginning to prevail, because, the scriptures will begin to become more clear. You will be amazed at how thoroughly they agree from Genesis to Revelations, and how simple the knowledge of the Father's plan is. You may even be amazed at how well a group of slightly educated fishermen from a region called Galilee handled this subject in very simple terms that conveyed truth, with the help of their Master and his Father.




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